Curse

Reverend Dr · Dec 07, 2010, 07:09 PM // 19:09

5player pvp also means an individual's performance has a larger effect upon the group's performance. This is going to make an individual getting over any learning curve more difficult and more painful for the whole team.

Sirius Bsns · Dec 07, 2010, 07:24 PM // 19:24

If they could make HA 5v5 or 6v6, it'd definitely cut down on the waiting times for entering. It probably make rank discrimination a bit more intense, but if it does happen that'd only further cripple the activity anyway. And I have zero hope in that players will realize this and counteract it. I bet they'd rather rage-quit the game than play with new comers, tbh. Elitist pigs will always be elitist to the very bitter end, until the final sting of game-death is administered. They WILL ultimately destroy "game activity" with their malevolence.

While sad, it is the truth.

Missing HB · Dec 08, 2010, 04:20 PM // 16:20

I don't really have problem playing with unranked pugs ( in fact , regarding my playtimes i don't have much choice ) , but the fact is , and i understand it , there will still be some addict guilds playing 24/7 ( such as [MATH] , [sz] , [Egg] + some common teams with same players ) .

For some players , these are already hard to beat so can you imagine beating them with inexped healers or melee ?? It would be possible after playing vs them a lot , so that could take some week but problem is that those players want to win right now , not in few weeks..... The same can apply for people that keep want to find r11+ players while there's noone in id1...

So yes , i think they did good by making 5v5 for gw2, since here it's kinda hard to change people's behaviour anyway , and hard to find a good solution otherwise...

diabiosx · Dec 10, 2010, 05:20 AM // 05:20

I would love to see a bunch of skill updates to help boost HA's build diversity well not affecting GvG's.

1thing I would really love to see changed is make haste. This skill is a must and really puts a strain on the attribute points allocation, make it 15seconds flat in the no attributes line. Reason: You can put it on more classes since making Para secondary is already a sacrafice due to its bad skills. Plus no one touches this skill in gvg.

Another thing I would love to see changed is Nerf to Soul Twisting. Either kill the skill or make the spirits have their recharge when interupted(atm only Dshot and dchop forces the long recharge) Reason:its basically killing all spike builds atm and most rupts(dshot and dchop being exceptions) dont do anything since ST will just instantly recharge the spirits.

Missing HB · Dec 10, 2010, 08:57 AM // 08:57

I said it on other thread , but shadow walk and cripshot nerf right now just prove they don't care of any other format ( i don't know how many times people in HB asked for teleport skills to stop casting enchant...).
Atm , this update doesn't do anything for HA , except by making ranger/sins a very little slower. But yes , it would be nice to just change 1 or 2 skills concerning HA only though....

Reverend Dr · Dec 10, 2010, 07:46 PM // 19:46

Frankly I'd like to see a reworking of *all* of the must have skills.

Song of Concentration
Make Haste
Ward against Foes
Grasping Earth
Savannah/Searing/Teinai's
Resilient Weapon
Aegis

Also no DP and 1 min rez in halls makes just about any kill other than backline irrelevant.

Missing HB · Dec 11, 2010, 08:51 AM // 08:51

Yes , actually maybe they should make like rez 1mn right after you died. It could be better then for 1v1 holding especially , or like some situations in cap pts ( like you finally killed r/el , osht he rezzes 2 sec after.. )

Otello · Dec 12, 2010, 08:57 PM // 20:57

A couple of hours ago in international district
GLF healer r9+
I am r8 and sent invitation to the group. When I showed my rank I was kicked in no time. Usually I ask before entering in groups ranked higher than me, but I thought that one rank of difference was not that tragic...
This is one of the causes why HA is dying. I mean, if the knew me, and they thought I am a bad infuser, I could understand... but kicking one person one rank below your requirments and spending 10-15 mins more to find a new one, that you don't know either, is very childlish

Lord Mip · Dec 13, 2010, 12:33 AM // 00:33

The utmost reason why I've lost interest in HA and am now GvGing instead.

HA destroyed itself. Period

Sirius Bsns · Dec 13, 2010, 12:50 AM // 00:50

I don't think Anet cares about anything other than GvG, tbh. HA, RA, and CA are all just lowly orphans permanently locked in the basement, only to be fed the bones and bread crumbs that tumble and trickle off of the GvG master dinner table.

diabiosx · Dec 13, 2010, 01:04 AM // 01:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius Bsns

I don't think Anet cares about anything other than GvG, tbh. HA, RA, and CA are all just lowly orphans permanently locked in the basement, only to be fed the bones and bread crumbs that tumble and trickle off of the GvG master dinner table.

yep i agreee

Asda che ti Passa · Dec 13, 2010, 11:09 AM // 11:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otello

A couple of hours ago in international district
GLF healer r9+
I am r8 and sent invitation to the group. When I showed my rank I was kicked in no time. Usually I ask before entering in groups ranked higher than me, but I thought that one rank of difference was not that tragic...
This is one of the causes why HA is dying. I mean, if the knew me, and they thought I am a bad infuser, I could understand... but kicking one person one rank below your requirments and spending 10-15 mins more to find a new one, that you don't know either, is very childlish

drama.

always been like that form your owns teams to solve the problem.

Otello · Dec 13, 2010, 04:52 PM // 16:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Asda che ti Passa

drama.

always been like that form your owns teams to solve the problem.

its not a drama and I do not care a nut of these guy. As monk I find a team in 5 minutes every time, so I have no problem.
I also form my team very often, and when I lead, most of the time I accept people less ranked than me, if I have no better choice.
It is only to show at which level can elitism arrive

Reverend Dr · Dec 13, 2010, 07:58 PM // 19:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sirius Bsns

I don't think Anet cares about anything other than GvG,

You think they care about GvG?

Sirius Bsns · Dec 14, 2010, 04:21 PM // 16:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

You think they care about GvG?

At the very most *yes*.

Missing HB · Dec 15, 2010, 10:44 AM // 10:44

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reverend Dr

You think they care about GvG?

Let's say they care more of GvG than HA and everything else ( and anyway , updates proved it...). People will tell me once again " you can't expect people to be on 24/7" or " it's 5 years old game dude" , but seriously , it's totally impossible to do anything else than RA now at these hours....

Infectious · Dec 16, 2010, 10:45 PM // 22:45

Welcome to 2008.
Halls died YEARS ago.
Another QQ ZOMG IM R0 BUT I WANT IN YOUR R9+ WHY NOT TAKE ME???

About the only thing I can think of that will get me R9 (RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO wolf, I'd rather bambi), is if the let me take 7 heros. When halls was active and I played with good people, playing with trash just brings on the red mist. Since I started playing again (PVE) I've seen like 2 good prot monks.

The fact I can prot and hold halls just proves how low HA has sunk.

Sirius Bsns · Dec 16, 2010, 11:50 PM // 23:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infectious

Welcome to 2008.
Halls died YEARS ago.
Another QQ ZOMG IM R0 BUT I WANT IN YOUR R9+ WHY NOT TAKE ME???

About the only thing I can think of that will get me R9 (RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO wolf, I'd rather bambi), is if the let me take 7 heros. When halls was active and I played with good people, playing with trash just brings on the red mist. Since I started playing again (PVE) I've seen like 2 good prot monks.

The fact I can prot and hold halls just proves how low HA has sunk.

That's very condescending of you. Possibly true, but condescending nonetheless.

I think there's nothing saving HA, or even GvG. Anet's not allotting the resources for it, and they're quite envenomed by our attitudes at this point after having visited all applicable GW1 forums and reading all the vile posts within them. It's not to say they haven't earned it through their nonperformance, but our collective responses aren't helping anything get better either.

Concluding: Trying to save Guild Wars 1 [PvP] is like trying to scoop water out of a "swiss-cheesed" boat [full of holes] in the middle of a stormy ocean surrounded by sharks. It's just not. gonna. HAPPEN.

superraptors · Dec 17, 2010, 09:35 AM // 09:35

so true, sad thing is people still jizz there pants when they hold halls in 2010

Missing HB · Dec 17, 2010, 06:18 PM // 18:18

It depends how you want to save HA. The " rank discrimination " many consider as a problem and inactivity could be eliminated much by having henchs ( since people will QQ if heroes) teams . However , if not , i don't think there's any solution to save HA at his point yes . But ,players mentality is more involved than i expected though , and i noticed it by just standing 10mn id1 earlier...